I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
Letterboxing and graveyards
23 messages in this thread |
Started on 2006-11-14
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: knightbaker63 (knightbaker63@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 20:15:32 UTC
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: knightbaker63 (knightbaker63@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 20:17:30 UTC
I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
Re: [Suspect] [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (diana@kjsl.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 15:25:40 UTC-05:00
Baker, I wasn't offended by your opinion, I was just giving you mine :)
I love cemeteries, and their history, and in my particular case I was
proud of my ancestor and wanted to share his history. I don't personally
consider letterboxing to be "playing a game." I was drawn to it because it
got me out and visiting places that I wouldn't normally do. For instance,
when I found a letterbox at the Andover Historical Society we went to the
museum, same with the National Plastics Museum in Leominster. When we go
on hikes in conservation areas we go to places that interest us, and do
the climbs etc. Letterboxing is the vehicle that got us there, not the end
in itself.
Dale End Farm
> I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
> http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
> regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
> record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
> because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
> grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
> that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
> history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
> afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
> wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
> seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
> whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
> local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
> ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
> of a game.
>
> I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
> sacred ground
>
>
>
>
>
>
I love cemeteries, and their history, and in my particular case I was
proud of my ancestor and wanted to share his history. I don't personally
consider letterboxing to be "playing a game." I was drawn to it because it
got me out and visiting places that I wouldn't normally do. For instance,
when I found a letterbox at the Andover Historical Society we went to the
museum, same with the National Plastics Museum in Leominster. When we go
on hikes in conservation areas we go to places that interest us, and do
the climbs etc. Letterboxing is the vehicle that got us there, not the end
in itself.
Dale End Farm
> I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
> http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
> regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
> record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
> because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
> grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
> that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
> history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
> afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
> wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
> seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
> whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
> local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
> ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
> of a game.
>
> I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
> sacred ground
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (kotlarek@wi.rr.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 14:34:10 UTC-06:00
Hi!
I didn't post on your blog, but have a comment. My dad loved many
games and hobbies and if he were buried in a cemetery it would be the
perfect thing to have a letterbox near him. (Instead I dedicated a
disc golf hole(?) in his memory.) I just wanted to let you know that
some people love and honor their relatives not by somber silence and
reflection, but by continuing on with things their relatives enjoyed.
Wisconsin Hiker
P.S. In the past, I've read on some message boards that several
currently living boxers would like to have a box near their grave after
they are gone.
----- Original Message -----
From: knightbaker63
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:21 pm
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> ... However, most of those who commented on my
> blog
> seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
> whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
> local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor
> to my
> ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be
> part
> of a game.
>
> I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
> sacred ground
>
>
>
>
>
>
I didn't post on your blog, but have a comment. My dad loved many
games and hobbies and if he were buried in a cemetery it would be the
perfect thing to have a letterbox near him. (Instead I dedicated a
disc golf hole(?) in his memory.) I just wanted to let you know that
some people love and honor their relatives not by somber silence and
reflection, but by continuing on with things their relatives enjoyed.
Wisconsin Hiker
P.S. In the past, I've read on some message boards that several
currently living boxers would like to have a box near their grave after
they are gone.
----- Original Message -----
From: knightbaker63
Date: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:21 pm
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> ... However, most of those who commented on my
> blog
> seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
> whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
> local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor
> to my
> ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be
> part
> of a game.
>
> I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
> sacred ground
>
>
>
>
>
>
RE: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: RIFamily (RIFamily@cox.net) |
Date: 2006-11-14 17:41:06 UTC-05:00
To me, having lbing in cemetaries is absolutely wonderful. We are not
parading a gang of vandals through these places. Just as we are caring of
our surroundings when we are walking through a national park, or a historic
site, or our local playground.
I have found many lbs in cemetaries. My experience, and my mother's and my
preschooler's and my husband's has been that of learning, respect, adoration
of beautiful art, appreciation for the history and a sense of the "bigness"
of death. We don't trod around with big Sasquash feet, pounding down head
stones, laughing our heads off and making fun of mourners.
I am actually quite hurt that you view letterboxers as a gang of game
players who would revel in cemetaries.
How many people visit cemetaries? Very few. They are MEANT to be visited,
in my opinion. Should we just stick our dead in fields and forget them?
And not try to understand cemetaries? They are a part of life as any other
place is.
Letterboxers enjoy visiting new places, having new experiences, learning.
This is a wonderful, respectful way to get people into cemetaries. To give
them the experience. To teach them what there is to learn there.
Using headstones as clues is an incredible way to get people to examine what
is on headstones. What words, what kind of lives, what artwork. What a
learning experience! Our letterboxing has led us to Veteran's cemetaries,
to active church yards, to historical old places all but forgotten.
I understand your desire for reverence. I don't think we are trodding on
that.
RIFamily
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parading a gang of vandals through these places. Just as we are caring of
our surroundings when we are walking through a national park, or a historic
site, or our local playground.
I have found many lbs in cemetaries. My experience, and my mother's and my
preschooler's and my husband's has been that of learning, respect, adoration
of beautiful art, appreciation for the history and a sense of the "bigness"
of death. We don't trod around with big Sasquash feet, pounding down head
stones, laughing our heads off and making fun of mourners.
I am actually quite hurt that you view letterboxers as a gang of game
players who would revel in cemetaries.
How many people visit cemetaries? Very few. They are MEANT to be visited,
in my opinion. Should we just stick our dead in fields and forget them?
And not try to understand cemetaries? They are a part of life as any other
place is.
Letterboxers enjoy visiting new places, having new experiences, learning.
This is a wonderful, respectful way to get people into cemetaries. To give
them the experience. To teach them what there is to learn there.
Using headstones as clues is an incredible way to get people to examine what
is on headstones. What words, what kind of lives, what artwork. What a
learning experience! Our letterboxing has led us to Veteran's cemetaries,
to active church yards, to historical old places all but forgotten.
I understand your desire for reverence. I don't think we are trodding on
that.
RIFamily
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@gmail.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 18:20:31 UTC-06:00
I felt somewhat like you do for a long, long time. I would go and find
cemetery boxes, but I was uneasy with the appropriateness of them.
After visiting several good cemetery boxes, I suddenly realized I was
looking forward to the next one. I thoroughly enjoy roaming cemeteries,
seeing the past of the community I'm visiting and being shown interesting
people who might never have been known had it not been for that box. It's a
way of immortalizing ordinary folk.
In fact, it changed my view on visiting my own father's grave - I rarely
visited his grave because I could hardly bear the sadness of reading his
name. I've come to think of him now as a member of the community past, the
roots of the community I am raising my kids in. I found that my kids enjoy
visiting him there, and my husband and I tell them stories about him and all
the people buried around him. I never realized, until I started frequenting
cemeteries while letterboxing, how people are buried in much the same
pattern and era they died in, so that with the help of a few stories you can
almost see those folks as they were living.
Now I do agree that it is entirely possible for people to be disrespectful
in cemeteries and I have taught my kids ot be watchful of mourners and to
avoid invading their privacy. Sometimes boxers write clues that don't
regard the graves - possibly leading finders over graves or through the
cemetery gratuitously, and that's not cool either.
I think the box that turned the corner for me was a tribute box to Blind
Lemon Jefferson, a musician of an era-gone-by, buried in a remote
little negro cemetery in a small town in Texas. In the course of a half
hour, I learned an amazing amount of information about burial customs in my
own region and about a man who had been known in his time as a legend, and
you have to wonder how someone of such greatness wound up buried in such an
obscure manner. But people haven't forgotten him, they go and pay tribute
to him with guitar picks and pocket change - and a letterbox.
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
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cemetery boxes, but I was uneasy with the appropriateness of them.
After visiting several good cemetery boxes, I suddenly realized I was
looking forward to the next one. I thoroughly enjoy roaming cemeteries,
seeing the past of the community I'm visiting and being shown interesting
people who might never have been known had it not been for that box. It's a
way of immortalizing ordinary folk.
In fact, it changed my view on visiting my own father's grave - I rarely
visited his grave because I could hardly bear the sadness of reading his
name. I've come to think of him now as a member of the community past, the
roots of the community I am raising my kids in. I found that my kids enjoy
visiting him there, and my husband and I tell them stories about him and all
the people buried around him. I never realized, until I started frequenting
cemeteries while letterboxing, how people are buried in much the same
pattern and era they died in, so that with the help of a few stories you can
almost see those folks as they were living.
Now I do agree that it is entirely possible for people to be disrespectful
in cemeteries and I have taught my kids ot be watchful of mourners and to
avoid invading their privacy. Sometimes boxers write clues that don't
regard the graves - possibly leading finders over graves or through the
cemetery gratuitously, and that's not cool either.
I think the box that turned the corner for me was a tribute box to Blind
Lemon Jefferson, a musician of an era-gone-by, buried in a remote
little negro cemetery in a small town in Texas. In the course of a half
hour, I learned an amazing amount of information about burial customs in my
own region and about a man who had been known in his time as a legend, and
you have to wonder how someone of such greatness wound up buried in such an
obscure manner. But people haven't forgotten him, they go and pay tribute
to him with guitar picks and pocket change - and a letterbox.
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"
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RE: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: xxxxxxxx (BrighidFarm@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-11-14 19:42:06 UTC-06:00
Keep in mind that cemetery etiquette or activities have changed thru the
years also. In decades and centuries past, things like celebrations,
picnics, birthday parties, etc. were often held in cemeteries. And in some
cultures and with many families, they still are. We throw a huuuuuuuuuuge
Irish birthday party at my grandmother's gravesite every year.
People learn history in cemeteries. People learn art in cemeteries. I
learned to walk in a cemetery. We lived right next to Graceland Cemetery in
Chicago when I was born -- an absolutely fantastic cemetery -- and I learned
to walk by tottering from stone to stone, using the stones for balance.
Heck, I have a box planted in a cemetery IN part of a headstone. Completely
with the family's approval. In fact, they suggested the idea. I would
never ever have considered doing it otherwise. Their father, when he
passed away, wanted visitors to his gravesite, and he also loved to play
games. Tho he wasn't a letterboxer. His particular drugs of choice were
parcheesi and spoons. This way he has someone playing a game and visiting
him at the same time. And if someone should happen to bring a fiddle, I'm
sure he'd come on down and dance. :-)
To me, ground can be sacred without having to be a dirge. Kind of like
churches. There are some folks that absolutely have to have everything
somber or it's not "religious" to them. There are other congregations that
break loose in a celebration of song and dance that can probably be heard
from Los Angeles to New York City. But one's not any less respectful than
the other in my eyes.
~~ Mosey ~~
http://freewebs.com/moseyingalong
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of knightbaker63
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:18 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
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years also. In decades and centuries past, things like celebrations,
picnics, birthday parties, etc. were often held in cemeteries. And in some
cultures and with many families, they still are. We throw a huuuuuuuuuuge
Irish birthday party at my grandmother's gravesite every year.
People learn history in cemeteries. People learn art in cemeteries. I
learned to walk in a cemetery. We lived right next to Graceland Cemetery in
Chicago when I was born -- an absolutely fantastic cemetery -- and I learned
to walk by tottering from stone to stone, using the stones for balance.
Heck, I have a box planted in a cemetery IN part of a headstone. Completely
with the family's approval. In fact, they suggested the idea. I would
never ever have considered doing it otherwise. Their father, when he
passed away, wanted visitors to his gravesite, and he also loved to play
games. Tho he wasn't a letterboxer. His particular drugs of choice were
parcheesi and spoons. This way he has someone playing a game and visiting
him at the same time. And if someone should happen to bring a fiddle, I'm
sure he'd come on down and dance. :-)
To me, ground can be sacred without having to be a dirge. Kind of like
churches. There are some folks that absolutely have to have everything
somber or it's not "religious" to them. There are other congregations that
break loose in a celebration of song and dance that can probably be heard
from Los Angeles to New York City. But one's not any less respectful than
the other in my eyes.
~~ Mosey ~~
http://freewebs.com/moseyingalong
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of knightbaker63
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:18 PM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
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Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: donutz716 (donutz716@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-14 19:48:10 UTC-08:00
If it bothers you - don't do it. What difference does it make if others agree or not? You don't think it's right so refrain from letterboxing there. You aren't going to change the minds of those who believe it's OK - so what is your point?
donutz716
knightbaker63 wrote:
I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
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donutz716
knightbaker63
I see by the reaction and the comments posted on my blog
http://bakersletterboxing.blogspot.com/ that many do not share my view
regarding letterboxing in graveyards. I would like to clear the
record, as I do not find them creepy. I like to go through them and
because of that curiosity I was able to find one of my great-
grandfathers that the family did not know where he was buried. I think
that people should visit them to get a better feel for their local
history. I have seen some beautiful stones and think that spending an
afternoon once and a while looking through the headstones is a
wonderful activity. However, most of those who commented on my blog
seem a little offended, as they want people to see their ancestors
whom they are proud of. My view is that I don't want people in my
local graveyards that are playing a game. To me it is a dishonor to my
ancestors. I want visitors to be there to see the stone not to be part
of a game.
I do not mean to offend this is my view, I just view graveyards as
sacred ground
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Letterboxing and graveyards
From: jencks23 (jencks23@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 14:02:33 UTC
Hello everyone, I have been following this for awhile and I thought
that it was time to add my two cents worth. I live in Ct and there are
alot of graveyards here rich with history. I took the family out
(Wife's not from around here) and they were amazed to see some of the
stones. We had done a search called the Patriot that actually had us
stop at Benedict Arnolds's mothers grave. There was also another one
that had us pass the civil war memorials of six soldiers that died in
Andersonville. I think that as long as no damage is done there's alot
to learn from these areas. People put up stones so that others will
never forget
that it was time to add my two cents worth. I live in Ct and there are
alot of graveyards here rich with history. I took the family out
(Wife's not from around here) and they were amazed to see some of the
stones. We had done a search called the Patriot that actually had us
stop at Benedict Arnolds's mothers grave. There was also another one
that had us pass the civil war memorials of six soldiers that died in
Andersonville. I think that as long as no damage is done there's alot
to learn from these areas. People put up stones so that others will
never forget
Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (LetHerBox@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 09:46:24 UTC-05:00
I have entertained the idea of leaving some sort of permanent clue of MY
headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
Mookie
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headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
Mookie
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[LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: ginjoliet69 (mgdudek@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-11-15 15:38:08 UTC
You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
The Traveling Dudeks
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, LetHerBox@... wrote:
>
> I have entertained the idea of leaving some sort of permanent clue of
MY
> headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
>
> Mookie
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
The Traveling Dudeks
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, LetHerBox@... wrote:
>
> I have entertained the idea of leaving some sort of permanent clue of
MY
> headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
>
> Mookie
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
RE: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: Tammy Burge (tammy_1967@charter.net) |
Date: 2006-11-15 11:04:01 UTC-05:00
I'm sure they could make a headstone with a little door to open with the
logbook and stamp inside. Just remember to assign someone in your will to
take care of it for you. :)
Tammy
RHM
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of LetHerBox@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:46 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
I have entertained the idea of leaving some sort of permanent clue of MY
headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
Mookie
logbook and stamp inside. Just remember to assign someone in your will to
take care of it for you. :)
Tammy
RHM
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of LetHerBox@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:46 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
I have entertained the idea of leaving some sort of permanent clue of MY
headstone when I go!!! Too bad I can't maintain a box from beyond.
Mookie
Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (MDHASZ@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 12:06:52 UTC-05:00
In a message dated 11/15/2006 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mgdudek@comcast.net writes:
You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
awesome idea!!!!!!
Diane/Connecticut
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
mgdudek@comcast.net writes:
You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
awesome idea!!!!!!
Diane/Connecticut
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: ncginger2000 (ncginger2000@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 18:32:39 UTC
I have hunted boxes in graveyards and will do so if the boxes have
been planted with respect to those interred there. I enjoy reading the
headstones and learning something about the history of an area from
them.
There is one caveat to remember though before you plant in a
graveyard. In some areas it may be illegal to plant letterboxes and
geocaches in graveyards. I believe I read recently that Tennessee is
one state where this is so.
You may want to check your local regs.
Knit Wit
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "jencks23" wrote:
>
> Andersonville. I think that as long as no damage is done there's
alot
> to learn from these areas. People put up stones so that others will
> never forget
>
been planted with respect to those interred there. I enjoy reading the
headstones and learning something about the history of an area from
them.
There is one caveat to remember though before you plant in a
graveyard. In some areas it may be illegal to plant letterboxes and
geocaches in graveyards. I believe I read recently that Tennessee is
one state where this is so.
You may want to check your local regs.
Knit Wit
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "jencks23"
>
> Andersonville. I think that as long as no damage is done there's
alot
> to learn from these areas. People put up stones so that others will
> never forget
>
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: lorij31461 (lori@wcoil.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 19:21:43 UTC
I have found several series of boxes that were planted in cemeteries.
They were mostly hidden in trees. But one series had a box hidden under
the corner of a headstone. It was a very, very old cemetary and it was
very, very creepy sticking my hand under that headstone. I'd say keep
the plants to trees or bushes and stay away from the headstones.
Lori
They were mostly hidden in trees. But one series had a box hidden under
the corner of a headstone. It was a very, very old cemetary and it was
very, very creepy sticking my hand under that headstone. I'd say keep
the plants to trees or bushes and stay away from the headstones.
Lori
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: dixiedarlin_snakedancer (dixiedarlin_snakedancer@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 19:56:50 UTC
we have only hunted one series of LB planted in a cemetery
5 boxes that made reference to various headstones
all hidden on the edge of the cemetery grounds,
along fences, in hollow trees etc
very well done and we enjoyed the hunt..clues were clever
HOWEVER
the first day we went
we did not LB because there was a funeral going on
so we just turned around and came back the next day
easy for us to do
as this series was only about 5 miles away from home
but
if i had traveled a long distance
probably would not have returned
and consideration of others always has to be NUMBER ONE
dixie darlin'
5 boxes that made reference to various headstones
all hidden on the edge of the cemetery grounds,
along fences, in hollow trees etc
very well done and we enjoyed the hunt..clues were clever
HOWEVER
the first day we went
we did not LB because there was a funeral going on
so we just turned around and came back the next day
easy for us to do
as this series was only about 5 miles away from home
but
if i had traveled a long distance
probably would not have returned
and consideration of others always has to be NUMBER ONE
dixie darlin'
Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (Stellabaker123@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-11-15 18:43:36 UTC-05:00
Rubbings of head stones and not cool any more. They destroy the surface. So
let us just plant and be respectful.
STAR:W+S=DRR
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
let us just plant and be respectful.
STAR:W+S=DRR
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: xxxxxxxx (BrighidFarm@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-11-15 19:05:03 UTC-06:00
Noooooooooooonononono...........as a cemetery historian and photographer, I
can tell ya right off rubbings are a no-no UNLESS you actually have
permission from the owner of the headstone and, in a lot of places, also
permission from the cemetery administration since cemeteries often don't
want people to be seen making rubbings since it can give other people the
idea that it's an OK thing to do without permission. Don't automatically
assume that because there's no sign posted saying "No Rubbings Please" that
permission is implied.
Rubbings can be very destructive to headstones depending on what that
headstone is made of, and most of the more interesting stones that one might
want to take a rubbing of are stones that cannot withstand much of that type
of treatment. When I see people getting out materials to do it, I often
give 'em a nice stern schoolmarm or librarian look that says "Don't even
THINK of doing what you're thinking of doing."
Even photography is becoming more and more restricted in many cemeteries,
altho for different reasons than rubbings.
~~ Mosey ~~
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MDHASZ@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:07 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
In a message dated 11/15/2006 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mgdudek@comcast.net writes:
You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
awesome idea!!!!!!
Diane/Connecticut
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yahoo! Groups Links
can tell ya right off rubbings are a no-no UNLESS you actually have
permission from the owner of the headstone and, in a lot of places, also
permission from the cemetery administration since cemeteries often don't
want people to be seen making rubbings since it can give other people the
idea that it's an OK thing to do without permission. Don't automatically
assume that because there's no sign posted saying "No Rubbings Please" that
permission is implied.
Rubbings can be very destructive to headstones depending on what that
headstone is made of, and most of the more interesting stones that one might
want to take a rubbing of are stones that cannot withstand much of that type
of treatment. When I see people getting out materials to do it, I often
give 'em a nice stern schoolmarm or librarian look that says "Don't even
THINK of doing what you're thinking of doing."
Even photography is becoming more and more restricted in many cemeteries,
altho for different reasons than rubbings.
~~ Mosey ~~
-----Original Message-----
From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MDHASZ@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:07 AM
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
In a message dated 11/15/2006 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mgdudek@comcast.net writes:
You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
there would be no box to maintain.
awesome idea!!!!!!
Diane/Connecticut
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Yahoo! Groups Links
[LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: ginjoliet69 (mgdudek@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-11-16 01:06:04 UTC
But if the owner of the stone allows it..........
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Stellabaker123@... wrote:
>
> Rubbings of head stones and not cool any more. They destroy the
surface. So
> let us just plant and be respectful.
>
> STAR:W+S=DRR
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Stellabaker123@... wrote:
>
> Rubbings of head stones and not cool any more. They destroy the
surface. So
> let us just plant and be respectful.
>
> STAR:W+S=DRR
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
[LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: ginjoliet69 (mgdudek@comcast.net) |
Date: 2006-11-16 02:12:40 UTC
I beleive I was talking about that it would be on MY tombstone and I
would leave permission as reponding to message #58139. I wouldn't do
it to someone I don't know. But if that's how you feel, then let
them take a skecth of that small flower on the back of the stone, or
have a code etched so it would be deciphered.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "xxxxxxxx"
wrote:
>
> Noooooooooooonononono...........as a cemetery historian and
photographer, I
> can tell ya right off rubbings are a no-no UNLESS you actually have
> permission from the owner of the headstone and, in a lot of places,
also
> permission from the cemetery administration since cemeteries often
don't
> want people to be seen making rubbings since it can give other
people the
> idea that it's an OK thing to do without permission. Don't
automatically
> assume that because there's no sign posted saying "No Rubbings
Please" that
> permission is implied.
>
> Rubbings can be very destructive to headstones depending on what
that
> headstone is made of, and most of the more interesting stones that
one might
> want to take a rubbing of are stones that cannot withstand much of
that type
> of treatment. When I see people getting out materials to do it, I
often
> give 'em a nice stern schoolmarm or librarian look that says "Don't
even
> THINK of doing what you're thinking of doing."
>
> Even photography is becoming more and more restricted in many
cemeteries,
> altho for different reasons than rubbings.
>
> ~~ Mosey ~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MDHASZ@...
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:07 AM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
>
>
> In a message dated 11/15/2006 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> mgdudek@... writes:
> You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
> actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
> there would be no box to maintain.
> awesome idea!!!!!!
>
> Diane/Connecticut
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
would leave permission as reponding to message #58139. I wouldn't do
it to someone I don't know. But if that's how you feel, then let
them take a skecth of that small flower on the back of the stone, or
have a code etched so it would be deciphered.
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "xxxxxxxx"
wrote:
>
> Noooooooooooonononono...........as a cemetery historian and
photographer, I
> can tell ya right off rubbings are a no-no UNLESS you actually have
> permission from the owner of the headstone and, in a lot of places,
also
> permission from the cemetery administration since cemeteries often
don't
> want people to be seen making rubbings since it can give other
people the
> idea that it's an OK thing to do without permission. Don't
automatically
> assume that because there's no sign posted saying "No Rubbings
Please" that
> permission is implied.
>
> Rubbings can be very destructive to headstones depending on what
that
> headstone is made of, and most of the more interesting stones that
one might
> want to take a rubbing of are stones that cannot withstand much of
that type
> of treatment. When I see people getting out materials to do it, I
often
> give 'em a nice stern schoolmarm or librarian look that says "Don't
even
> THINK of doing what you're thinking of doing."
>
> Even photography is becoming more and more restricted in many
cemeteries,
> altho for different reasons than rubbings.
>
> ~~ Mosey ~~
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MDHASZ@...
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:07 AM
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
>
>
> In a message dated 11/15/2006 10:55:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> mgdudek@... writes:
> You could have the clues on LBNA or AQ sites, but the stamp would
> actually be a rubbing of a certain spot on your head stone. That way
> there would be no box to maintain.
> awesome idea!!!!!!
>
> Diane/Connecticut
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: pell_lake_girl (mishiekins@prodigy.net) |
Date: 2006-11-19 23:57:20 UTC
I was leery of adding to this topic, due to recent posts that seemed
to point a negative finger at family letterboexers with young
children. My one experience to date was quite negative. Then
yesterday, at a different cemetary, it happened again. What is WITH
these people???? Does giving birth suddenly remove an adult's sense of
decorum and respect for other people? Or is it just people in THIS
area? that I encounter? I am astounded.
The first time I looked for a box in a cemetary was last week. I
wanted to take my 10 yr old goddaughter out to look for a box for the
first time. It was cold and gray so I picked 2 indoor boxes. But she
wanted to look for one outdoors. I had printed off several boxes that
were near to her home and she wanted to do this one:
http://www.atlasquest.com/lboxes/clue/index.html?gBoxId=11774
As you can see it is a very intriguing story, all about a tragic
accident involving a circus train almost 100 years ago, and the
cemetary is the site of the burial of these circus performers. When we
went to the cemetary I impressed upon her in the car that letterboxing
needs to be kept secret, so that the cemetary staff do not find the
box and remove it, and if anyone was curious we needed to LIE and say
she was doing a school project. :-)
When we got to the cemetary, she was VERY excited to see the elephant
staues from the car just as the clues said we would. As we got out of
the car, her natural exuberance came to the fore and I really needed
to keep a grip on her. I kept reminding her that this was the site of
peoples' GRAVES, people who had died tragically, people who were
buried name unknown. We could not walk across their headstones, yell
and shout, run around, or treat the place like a playground. Yes were
were there to do something "fun" but we needed to keep respect for the
dead at the front of our intentions at all times. It was hard for her,
and sometimes she forgot herself, but she tried as best she could
(she's a good girl; plus she knows if she ticks me off there will be
no further outings with Fun Auntie M, so that is good leverage for
me :-))
As we were walking around [it's a rather small area of the cemetary]
an SUV pulled up. We were immediately on alert, bc what were the
chances of some other folks coming to that exact place at 4:30 on a
cold and windy Nov day, just 30 min before dark? Out came a family --
a mother, a father smoking a stinky cigar, and 2 loud boys, one about
8-9, one about 4-5. The 2 boys immediately came running to the circus
area where we were, were yelling and running over graves. The mother
was loudly pointing out the exact same gravestones as listed in "the
story" that we had just seen ourselves, which is why I thought they
were letterboxers. None of them made any attempt ot be discreet in
case we were there as mounrners or for any other reason. My
goddaughter and I just kept on quietly with what we were doing, bc we
did not want to fid the box at the same time they did.
What reallllllllyyy offended me was that, as we were leaving that area
and making our way to the next part of the clues [in a non-circus part
of the cemetary], the youngest boy climbed up onto one of the elephant
staues -- which as "the story" specified, had their trunks lowered "in
mourning" -- and started whooping and yee hawing, and waving his arm
over his head, and yelling for his parents to "Look! LOOOOK!" bc he
was "a cowboy." They looked on in indulgent amusement and then the
mother said yes, yes very nice, a cowboy, and called him over to the
car and they finally drove off.
My goddaughter and I talked about this as we were walking thru the
cemetary and following the other clues. I told her how offensive I
found their behavior. No child is perfect of course -- my goddaughter
badly wanted a picture of her with Ellie, the largest elephant statue,
and she did climb up to stand beside Ellie, but I told her sharply to
get down. I honestly don't know how parents raise well behaved
children when the kids are constantly shown examples of other kids
behaving badly, and their parents encouraging it.
So that was just the one incident. Though we looked and looked for the
box, we did not ever find it, so I don't know if they found it forst,
and signed it and who they were.
But then yesterday. Another one. A box hidden at another cemetary, a
good 40 miles away from that one. I went to this one alone. As I was
walking thu the cemetary following the clues, a mini van pulled up, 4
doors opened all at once and vomited out a huge loud family. AND.
THEIR. DOG.
Ok I don't mean to seem stuffy. BUT A DOG. This is not a dog park!
This is a cemetary! You see someone walking in the cemetary and you
let YOUR DOG out to follow you around and pee on the graves?!?!? It
was a very very cute dog. Quite adorable. Followed them around very
obediently. But still. Wrong wrong wrong. The youngest was climbing up
on top of bigger gravestones. The mother was reading sloud the clues
so loudly I could hear her all the way across the place. They were of
course, following me, and I did not care ot let on where the box was.
I sat on a bench and I prayed for the souls of the dead, and sketched
some of the interesting headstones. I took a hike at a nature preserve
attached to the cemetary.
By the way? Dogs not allowed in Illinois nature preserves or
conservation areas, no matter how well behaved. These are areas for
the preservation of WILDLIFE. And I just looked on Atlas Quest now to
see if the clues said dog friendly - NO.
I don't want to say what box it was, bc there are bonus boxes there
which are not listed on the websites. But I had to hang out for a good
long time before they left. And so I only stamped 2 of the 3.
So this is 2 weeks in a row, in 2 cemetaries, and 2 families who do
not seem to have any concern for teachihg children how to behave in
cemetraies.
I will say, this last family did hide the boxes very well and
everything was sealed up nice and tight as it should be. But still.
The darn dog.
Freelance Mystic
to point a negative finger at family letterboexers with young
children. My one experience to date was quite negative. Then
yesterday, at a different cemetary, it happened again. What is WITH
these people???? Does giving birth suddenly remove an adult's sense of
decorum and respect for other people? Or is it just people in THIS
area? that I encounter? I am astounded.
The first time I looked for a box in a cemetary was last week. I
wanted to take my 10 yr old goddaughter out to look for a box for the
first time. It was cold and gray so I picked 2 indoor boxes. But she
wanted to look for one outdoors. I had printed off several boxes that
were near to her home and she wanted to do this one:
http://www.atlasquest.com/lboxes/clue/index.html?gBoxId=11774
As you can see it is a very intriguing story, all about a tragic
accident involving a circus train almost 100 years ago, and the
cemetary is the site of the burial of these circus performers. When we
went to the cemetary I impressed upon her in the car that letterboxing
needs to be kept secret, so that the cemetary staff do not find the
box and remove it, and if anyone was curious we needed to LIE and say
she was doing a school project. :-)
When we got to the cemetary, she was VERY excited to see the elephant
staues from the car just as the clues said we would. As we got out of
the car, her natural exuberance came to the fore and I really needed
to keep a grip on her. I kept reminding her that this was the site of
peoples' GRAVES, people who had died tragically, people who were
buried name unknown. We could not walk across their headstones, yell
and shout, run around, or treat the place like a playground. Yes were
were there to do something "fun" but we needed to keep respect for the
dead at the front of our intentions at all times. It was hard for her,
and sometimes she forgot herself, but she tried as best she could
(she's a good girl; plus she knows if she ticks me off there will be
no further outings with Fun Auntie M, so that is good leverage for
me :-))
As we were walking around [it's a rather small area of the cemetary]
an SUV pulled up. We were immediately on alert, bc what were the
chances of some other folks coming to that exact place at 4:30 on a
cold and windy Nov day, just 30 min before dark? Out came a family --
a mother, a father smoking a stinky cigar, and 2 loud boys, one about
8-9, one about 4-5. The 2 boys immediately came running to the circus
area where we were, were yelling and running over graves. The mother
was loudly pointing out the exact same gravestones as listed in "the
story" that we had just seen ourselves, which is why I thought they
were letterboxers. None of them made any attempt ot be discreet in
case we were there as mounrners or for any other reason. My
goddaughter and I just kept on quietly with what we were doing, bc we
did not want to fid the box at the same time they did.
What reallllllllyyy offended me was that, as we were leaving that area
and making our way to the next part of the clues [in a non-circus part
of the cemetary], the youngest boy climbed up onto one of the elephant
staues -- which as "the story" specified, had their trunks lowered "in
mourning" -- and started whooping and yee hawing, and waving his arm
over his head, and yelling for his parents to "Look! LOOOOK!" bc he
was "a cowboy." They looked on in indulgent amusement and then the
mother said yes, yes very nice, a cowboy, and called him over to the
car and they finally drove off.
My goddaughter and I talked about this as we were walking thru the
cemetary and following the other clues. I told her how offensive I
found their behavior. No child is perfect of course -- my goddaughter
badly wanted a picture of her with Ellie, the largest elephant statue,
and she did climb up to stand beside Ellie, but I told her sharply to
get down. I honestly don't know how parents raise well behaved
children when the kids are constantly shown examples of other kids
behaving badly, and their parents encouraging it.
So that was just the one incident. Though we looked and looked for the
box, we did not ever find it, so I don't know if they found it forst,
and signed it and who they were.
But then yesterday. Another one. A box hidden at another cemetary, a
good 40 miles away from that one. I went to this one alone. As I was
walking thu the cemetary following the clues, a mini van pulled up, 4
doors opened all at once and vomited out a huge loud family. AND.
THEIR. DOG.
Ok I don't mean to seem stuffy. BUT A DOG. This is not a dog park!
This is a cemetary! You see someone walking in the cemetary and you
let YOUR DOG out to follow you around and pee on the graves?!?!? It
was a very very cute dog. Quite adorable. Followed them around very
obediently. But still. Wrong wrong wrong. The youngest was climbing up
on top of bigger gravestones. The mother was reading sloud the clues
so loudly I could hear her all the way across the place. They were of
course, following me, and I did not care ot let on where the box was.
I sat on a bench and I prayed for the souls of the dead, and sketched
some of the interesting headstones. I took a hike at a nature preserve
attached to the cemetary.
By the way? Dogs not allowed in Illinois nature preserves or
conservation areas, no matter how well behaved. These are areas for
the preservation of WILDLIFE. And I just looked on Atlas Quest now to
see if the clues said dog friendly - NO.
I don't want to say what box it was, bc there are bonus boxes there
which are not listed on the websites. But I had to hang out for a good
long time before they left. And so I only stamped 2 of the 3.
So this is 2 weeks in a row, in 2 cemetaries, and 2 families who do
not seem to have any concern for teachihg children how to behave in
cemetraies.
I will say, this last family did hide the boxes very well and
everything was sealed up nice and tight as it should be. But still.
The darn dog.
Freelance Mystic
Re: [LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: (Stellabaker123@aol.com) |
Date: 2006-11-20 18:06:11 UTC-05:00
That was a very sad experience you had at the cemeteries. We once
encountered others. We were following the clues when a funeral director arrived and
asked if we were there for the burial. We said no just visiting. I hoped he
thought we were visiting a special grave site. As the small group arrived, we
left for the large tree in the back of the cemetery got the box brought it to
the car and did our stamping. After the burial, we went back and replanted
the box and said a pray for the newly deceased.
STAR:W+S=DRR
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
encountered others. We were following the clues when a funeral director arrived and
asked if we were there for the burial. We said no just visiting. I hoped he
thought we were visiting a special grave site. As the small group arrived, we
left for the large tree in the back of the cemetery got the box brought it to
the car and did our stamping. After the burial, we went back and replanted
the box and said a pray for the newly deceased.
STAR:W+S=DRR
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[LbNA] Re: Letterboxing and graveyards
From: pell_lake_girl (mishiekins@prodigy.net) |
Date: 2006-11-21 17:28:39 UTC
I'm sure they all appreciated your discretion and respect for the grieving and the dead.
There were bonus boxes associated with this one so I will go back, maybe in the spring, so
I can find the rest. It was a beautiful area. I found a grave for a baby that had the dates B.
1912, D. 1912. Another headstone had a sea scene with lighthouse and boat etched in it
and a couple's name with the same date of death. The husband was listed as Captain and
the wife as Admiral. I assumed they died at sea. It was a beautiful headstone. Plus there is
a butterfly garden inside the cemetary there so I want to see it in the spring.
I surely do appreciate how letterboxers who plant boxes in these amazing areas so that I
can discover them and enjoy them. Thank you, thank you.
Freelance Mystic
>
> That was a very sad experience you had at the cemeteries. We once
> encountered others. We were following the clues when a funeral director arrived and
> asked if we were there for the burial. We said no just visiting. I hoped he
> thought we were visiting a special grave site. As the small group arrived, we
> left for the large tree in the back of the cemetery got the box brought it to
> the car and did our stamping. After the burial, we went back and replanted
> the box and said a pray for the newly deceased.
>
> STAR:W+S=DRR
>
>
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There were bonus boxes associated with this one so I will go back, maybe in the spring, so
I can find the rest. It was a beautiful area. I found a grave for a baby that had the dates B.
1912, D. 1912. Another headstone had a sea scene with lighthouse and boat etched in it
and a couple's name with the same date of death. The husband was listed as Captain and
the wife as Admiral. I assumed they died at sea. It was a beautiful headstone. Plus there is
a butterfly garden inside the cemetary there so I want to see it in the spring.
I surely do appreciate how letterboxers who plant boxes in these amazing areas so that I
can discover them and enjoy them. Thank you, thank you.
Freelance Mystic
>
> That was a very sad experience you had at the cemeteries. We once
> encountered others. We were following the clues when a funeral director arrived and
> asked if we were there for the burial. We said no just visiting. I hoped he
> thought we were visiting a special grave site. As the small group arrived, we
> left for the large tree in the back of the cemetery got the box brought it to
> the car and did our stamping. After the burial, we went back and replanted
> the box and said a pray for the newly deceased.
>
> STAR:W+S=DRR
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>